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When a Durham commission discussed the mundane details for a new clubhouse \u2014 including whether it could have vinyl window frames \u2014 the real focus was on an old house at the top of a nearby hill. That house, the Greystone Inn, is listed in the National Register of Historic Places, and is included in the local Morehead Hill Historic District. Under a Durham ordinance, any time someone wants to build within a local historic district, they need a \u201ccertificate of appropriateness.\u201d Enter the Durham Historic Preservation Commission.<\/span><\/p>\n

The commission must approve proposed changes to make sure they match the character of nearby historic buildings.<\/span><\/p>\n

In early March, at the group\u2019s most recent meeting, members discussed plans for a vacant lot down the hill from the Inn.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"\"\u201cOur job is to protect the historic character of our communities as a way of providing some education about the story of that community,\u201d commission member April Johnson, 44, director of community engagement and giving at Housing for New Hope, told The 9th Street Journal.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The proposed project for the lot, the Elm Hill Townhomes, first appeared before the commission two years ago. The plan included 11 residential buildings and a clubhouse. After ensuring that everything from the buildings\u2019 siding to the trees on the property posed no threat to the Greystone Inn\u2019s architectural character, the board unanimously approved the project.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

But there were additional details to fret about, so the project was back on the March 7 agenda. It was a reminder of how the Historic Preservation Commission worries about little things: The meeting focused solely on a request to add an extra floor to the clubhouse, which led to discussions about shingles, window models, and landscaping.<\/span><\/p>\n

The commission assembled in a small committee room at City Hall at 9 a.m., and Chair Andy Goolsby called the meeting to order.<\/span><\/p>\n

After roll call, the group turned to the main item on the agenda: the vacant lot.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Linda Lavis, the project manager, rose to present the amended clubhouse plan. She scrolled through a presentation, explaining the front and side views of the two-story building. Lavis discussed the materials (insulated wood doors, cement trim, board and batten siding) and listed the building\u2019s potential spaces (fitness room, yoga studio, offices). After five minutes and more than 10 pages of drawings, Lavis said, \u201cThat\u2019s the extent of it. It\u2019s a pretty small, simple building.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Simple, sure. But the commission had no shortage of detailed questions.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

First, Gooslby clarified the kind of asphalt shingles on the clubhouse roof. Lavis handled that one easily, but the next question caused more of a stir.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Goolsby had noticed an issue with the clubhouse windows. While the original plan used Sierra Pacific windows, an approved variety, the amended plan included Plygem Vinyl windows, a kind of \u201chollow profile\u201d material explicitly prohibited in the <\/span>Historic Properties Local Review Criteria<\/span><\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

When Lavis said she couldn\u2019t find the rule about hollow profile windows, member April Johnson was prepared with its exact location: \u201cIt\u2019s under \u2018Non-Contributing, Section B: New Structures,\u2019 and then go down to number 4, and the rule is in part B.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

(Johnson expanded on the rule in a phone call after the meeting: \u201cVinyl is not a material that\u2019s in harmony with the historic materials, look or design of Durham\u2019s historic districts.\u201d)<\/span><\/p>\n

The commission ultimately required that Lavis switch to an approved material for the clubhouse windows.<\/span><\/p>\n

Commission members are comfortable sweating the details about vinyl and other building materials because many are architects, urban planners, or historians. \u201cThe commission is made up of people who have an interest in historic preservation one way or another, so we do get a little passionate,\u201d Johnson told The 9th Street Journal. \u201cWe really care about how things look.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Although commission members made no mention of the Greystone Inn during their discussion, the old building seemed to loom large in their deliberations. They moved ahead only when they were sure the additional floor on the clubhouse was not a threat to the Inn\u2019s historic charm.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

After a few more questions about the landscaping, Goolsby entertained a motion to approve the application, with the condition that the window material be changed. The motion passed unanimously.<\/span><\/p>\n

Above: The Greystone Inn loomed over the conversation during a recent meeting of the Durham Historic Preservation Commission. Photo by Nina Moske \u2014 The 9th Street Journal\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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